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As such, there are countless individuals in Dragon Ball who slowly get bested by Jiren in combat. While the line is manga only, it matches up with the anime where Whis relies on other methods to deal with immortal Zamasu when he travels to the future with Trunks at the end of the arc. > Bumping a thread only 9 minutes after the last answer. Claudio Swiss Well-Known Member Feb 20, 2020 #5 Jiren has no way of killing him the fact that zeno was required to nuke him tells you much https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1409099#20. Goku and Beerus fist bump and destroy the universe with Zamasu as Goku IT's them to safety. Upon Future Zeno's appearance, the army of Fused Zamases instantly freeze in fear. Goku vs. Jiren First Round Supercut - Dragon Ball Super Miles 8.4M views 5 years ago Dragon Ball Super: Goku & Vegeta Train and Grow Beards English Sub CHADL3Y 15K views 6 years ago Dragon Ball. He is as arrogant as his previous incarnation, declaring himself to be above his fellow gods. Jiren destroys him. As both Future Zamasu and Goku Black possess the same soul, it appears that this infinite form reflects that. @frocharocha: When has Jiren cut anything? In this state, Infinite Zamasu is a mass of Zamasu faces. Well-Known Member. The line is in both versions of the story too, To permanently kill zamasu, you need to be stronger than Super Shenron since its magic protects him. he is just too haxed, but i can see jiren beating zamasu. I am talking about Zamasu's immeasurable lifting strength. As with the anime,Whis travels to the alternate timeline to warn the Beerus from said timeline about Zamasu's intentions and thus stopping the Zamasu of that timeline from ever causing harm to anyone, god and mortal. Immeasurable lifting strength won't be an outlier don't worry so I agree with it scaling to the TOP top tiers. Goku, Vegeta, and Future Trunks unleash a combined Kamehameha, Galick Gun and Final Flash, but it had no effect against Zamasu. Afafakja 6 mo. Infinite Zamasu wins both rounds. Not moving around. My viewpoint is Trunks attacking fusion zamasu = black is gone because he isnt immortal. Votes shouldn't be counted. . That version of Zamasu didn't even take on kaio Ken Goku. Transforming into his Grotesque form lowers his speed at the expense of higher attack power. The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. He then removes the sword from his body before shattering it and transforms himself into Fused Zamasu. Must be my memory, but I don't remember where it was decided to rate Zamasu's lifting strength at that level. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. One way of stopping it is creating a discussion rule and closing any threads that are made by giving the reason "this has been discussed countless times before". 'Infinite' is a lot of energy, and I think Goku would be excited to test himself against it. Zamasu was considered a prodigy and incredable powerful by his own kind standers but he was . By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I think Zamasu should keep immeasurable lifting strength, darkdragonmdjhdjh gave reasons for why he scaled to that LS tier in the first place, and I also think that everyone who scales above him also scales to it. I guess you can say that he may not be able to lift his own weight, I am neutral on that aspect. The Grand Priest works as well as he does because his restraint forces the audience's imagination to run wild. The Ultimate Power of an Absolute God, Dragon Ball Super: Episode 67 - With New Hope in His Heart - Farewell, Trunks, Dragon Ball Super: Episode 66 - Showdown! It may not display this or other websites correctly. Universe 6's famed assassin Hit is an extremely powerful character who is strong enough to kill most who stand in his way. If so, there's a case to be made for both Jiren/Infinite Zamasu to win here. It is interesting to note, however, that Infinite Zamasu in the Dragon Ball Super anime doesn't have the apparent fear of Future Zeno that he had in the manga. Anyway, a Jiren shows up on Earth to help Goku and Vegeta. Biggest reason is that Beerus viewed him as an absolute non-threat in the anime (Bear in Mind that Zamasu is literally the universe itself, similar to how Ego would be Planet level just by being a Planet alone), plus there's the whole Beerus + Champa fighting= Destruction of both Universe 6 and 7 and dividing that by 2 is real, effin' high-end Low 2-C. Also don't we already have a separate Low 2-C Zamasu thread? Although it is initially blocked by the three Saiyans, they are overpowered at the end of the blast and are knocked down, albeit successfully protecting Future Mai, Bulma, Shin, and Gowasu as well as the Time Machine. It seems he's embraced this new ethereal state. Infinite Zamasu also demonstrates similar lucidity in the manga, where he specifically states that he can follow Goku and his friends to their present timeline due to owning his own Time Machine before he and his entire timeline is erased by Future Zeno. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. Only hax can beat him. Thanks to Kale's special Legendary Super Saiyan form, Kefla is several times stronger than the average fusion. Lucy has that for being a universe. Dragon Ball sometimes gets out of hand when it comes to their celestial deities and the powers that they possess, but the Grand Priest is a successful example of less being more. Promotional material doesn't mean anything if it contradicts the story. Fight takes place in the 7 Universe for whatever reasons, R2: Infinite Zamasu VS Jiren and MUI Goku. Infinite Zamasu (Dragon Ball Super) vs Time Breaker Zamasu (Dragon Ball Heroes) #1 bob74h Setting/Location: Kaioshin Realm universe 10 Victory Conditions: Death of the opponent Motivation:. You shouldn't hold out hope. His only goal in whatever remains of hismind from his previous incarnations seems to be to become one with the entire universe and beyond in order to kill all life forms, mortal and god; andbecome justice itself. Interestingly, the visage of Fused Zamasu that appears is his original, base state, rather than the Super Saiyan Ros form that Fused Zamasu previously had his body destroyed in. Protectors of the universes not able to do something about the threats what a joke. However, power levels are a fickle thing in Dragon Ball and there are still several characters who could find ways to win in a potential skirmish. and kaioken goku could send him flying with kicks alone. Not sure about that one. Jiren (DB) - vs - Infinite Zamasu (DB) # 39.5 K Jiren (DB) Infinite Zamasu exists in the entire multiverse and in the past and future, but Jiren is way too powerful. As long as the space-time rift exists the clones will keep regenerating or more will appear, was becoming one with the universe and overriding its law and order, he was even shown to be present in the main timeline, was affecting the present to a certain degree, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. The Universe he was becoming one with being comprised of 3 space time continuums), Speed: Massively FTL+ (At least 196 quadrillion c, likely far higher. Kefla was putting out more power than the ultra instinct goku that fought jiren. In the anime, however, Infinite Zamasu can still be heard emitting the same insane laughter even after Future Zeno appeared. It's the beginning of the arc when they ask about him. and our Lord Beerus is Universe 7's God of Destruction and quite possibly the strongest of these 12 apocalyptic figures. Ill give you that. Jiren can defeat Merged Zamasu for sure but probably not Infinite Zamasu so he will lose. Yeah Zamasu's power increase goes fast, and I don't think Jiren is too into timeline nuking. As his fused body became an unbalanced mix, with Future Zamasu's immortality struggling to "repair" his body as a single being, resulting in a splitting image of his fusees. !" . I think Jiren takes this. However, he is still able to display signs of intelligence and awareness, as well as fear; when Future Zeno begins to erase him, Infinite Zamasu visibly gasps then screams in horror as he is erased. What stands these two apart is that Jiren studies intense meditation and calculated strategies, whereas Broly fights purely through instinct, which has its share of setbacks. Okay, well, what about the Lifting Strength? Universe/Timeline Zamasu could literally be felt by Beerus and Whis in the present timeline. With no restrictions Infinite Zamasu wins, as hes essentially immortal. Furthermore, his facial expression(s) did not change as he continued to smile and laugh in the face of the Omni-King, even after the latter looks up at the sky when Goku tells him that the former was the one responsible for the destruction and desolate appearance of Earth. Goku Black is the form that Zamasu, the Supreme Kai of Universe 10, takes during an especially dark period in Dragon Ball Super. Scan this QR code to download the app now. To what extent is Beerus's Hakai's even useful in this occasion? However, in Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2, he still retains his sanity and is able to speak with Chronoa, the Supreme Kai of Time. This article is about the character, Infinite Zamasu. Ultra Ego Vegeta actively grows stronger the more damage that he takes, which means that Jiren's massive blows will only amplify Vegeta's power and rage. Beerus is aided by the standard God of Destruction perks like the erasing power of Hakai, but he's never fully applied himself to a battle in the series. Dragon Ball fans have gotten used to Vegeta following in Goku's footsteps and struggling to match his milestones. Vegito Blue as of the Black arc. Expanding is growing bigger. They then start beating Goku down and attempted to kill him. 19 _Goku- 3 yr. ago There is a way, they nuke the universe Zamasu resides in, before he gets the chance to spread, but that's extremely OOC for either of them. off-topic question before closure, should Beerus and people who scale have Universal+ Range since Beerus was only mildly annoyed at Infinite Zamasu? The main purpose of this forum is to discuss how to properly index the statistics of characters from a wide variety of different fictional franchises. Jiren is bloodlusted so he'll try to win via any means, who wins? How the fuck Zamasu in the anime killed Jiren? When he isn't writing, he is often reading all sorts of manga. If somebody finds it, let me know. Vados said Jiren transcended time cause he beat Hits time cage but Zamasu actually showed that by being felt in another timeline. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Jiren easely best Zamasu and imprison him with the device he used in the manga to capture a criminal. Because just being something doesn't mean you can lift it too. Jiren and Goku are much stronger individually but there's nothing they can do to kill and eliminate Zamasu who was consuming all of timelines. However, Ultra Ego Vegeta represents a powerful evolution that feeds into the Saiyan's aggressive tendencies. This version of Infinite Zamasu was based on the anime version. Loses to 123 jiren. In the manga, the saiyans are weaker, and the GoD's Jiren compares to are even stronger so either way, Jiren is leagues above this. Zamasu, since Jiren has no way to completely kill him. Infinite History Saga. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Whis surely can deal with him. Zamasu would win with immortality, Jiren has no way to beat him. Merged Zamasu is gonna win don't forget it took the king of everything to actually get rid of Zamasu. Fought and damaged Super Saiyan Blue Vegito[3]), far higher with Gigantification (Became even stronger, albeit at the cost of speed[3]), can possibly ignore conventional durability with his Sickle of Sorrow | Low Multiverse level (As stated by both Gowasu and Beerus, Zamasu, in this state, was becoming one with the universe and overriding its law and order. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I remember Whis saying that he had a method to deal with Zamasu. Main article: Infinite History Saga In a Time Rift, Dabura's influence caused the ideals of Goku Black and Future Zamasu to leave quite an impression on Future Jiren, who decided to leave his universe and follow them to help carry out the Project Zero Mortals. RELATED: 10 Best Villains From The Dragon Ball Movies, Ranked. Jiren is stronger but the question is if he can find a way to put Zamasu down permanently. That's what happens. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright . Naturally, Zamasu is significantly stronger, since the fusees in Goku Black/Zamasu are significantly stronger than the Saiyan punks, operating at a much higher level of power (SSR vs SSJ2) - thus . For information regarding the procedure that needs to be exactly followed to register there, please click here. All that Beerus needs to do is catch Jiren off-guard and he's as good as erased. For more information, please see our Vegeta used his fInal Flesh on Zamasu body, and the remaining peieces became a bunch of Zamasu. Additionally, he was even shown to be present in the main timeline and was affecting the present to a certain degree, implying he was actually affecting space-time as well. Bloodlusted. This in itself is a testament to Kefla's phenomenal power. We haven't seen Jiren use all his power so you can't even give an answer atm. if he were to be a universe, he would be expanding by default, faster than his gravity causes him to collapse. Fusion Zamasu is incredibly arrogant, and can be taken off guard should someone begin matching his newfound power. Apr 21, 2019. Gohan didnt stand a chance against Jiren in the Tournament of Power, but Gohan Beast is another story. He has that rating already. That's what happens. Jiren is likely to take Gamma 1 and 2s crusade personally since they masquerade as heroes and hes actually a part of Universe 11s heroic police force, the Pride Troopers. These clones can also block Ki sensing), Size Manipulation (Can increase his size), Rage Power, Afterimage Creation, Likely Analytical Prediction and Light Manipulation (Via Solar Flare), Electricity Manipulation (Via Lightning of Absolution), Explosion Manipulation, Possibly has Sound Manipulation, Statistics Amplification, Pressure Point Strikes, and Energy / Ki Absorption, Half of his body adapted to gravity via the Gravity Machine and has Resistance to Extrasensory Perception (Cannot be sensed by beings lesser than a God), Extreme Heat, Extreme Cold, Harsh Temperatures, Cosmic Radiations, Paralysis, Time Stop (Goku Black stated to possess all of Gokus abilities), Attack Potency: Low Multiverse level (At least as strong as Infinite Zamasu, who is simply the disembodied will of himself that spread across the universe after his body was cut down. Jiren is definitively stronger. | Class. Jiren Can seal him up, same go for Goku and the angels It's too late once he's infinite. @shenron007: by blowing them up, not an actual hakai, there is no evidence of that. So my reply to this topic would probably be merged zamasu simply cause he is immortal from the dragon balls but thats my opinion, still jiren can be infinitely stronger or weaker then zamasu or be at the same power but do to consequences of it being inside a different dimension we cant take to many feats in that realm to show who wins or not, meaning all we can do is compare them both to goku and use goku as a reference to show who is more powerful then the other, so lets take gokus max multiplier compared to super saiyen 3 i have ever seen from seth the programmer which i dont really know what to think about and he thinks super saiyen god is a 200,000,000,000 times multiplier compared to ss3 so that makes gokus god form 8e+13 times stronger then base form so if we keep in consideration gokus super saiyen god super saiyen form is just super saiyen god with super saiyen form merged that adds a 50 times multiplier onto that then adding in the the times 20 multiplier from kaioken times 20, and knowing he used the spirit bomb as a power source for his ultra instinct that means the only thing we can do is assume the spirit bomb gave him another x20 multiplier for energy at least so although we dont know his true power of ultra insinct we can only make assumptions so i just gave another times 20 multiplier and that makes ultra instinct 1.6e+18 times stronger then gokus base form at least or bassicly 1,600,000,000,000,000,000 and we are gonna keep it that way to stay accurate as possible and now knowing jiren didnt have to difficulty of a time handeling goku lets be generous and say he was only giving it his 1% all and that would mean jiren is 158,400,000,000,000,000,000 times more powerful then gokus base form and thats being generous, now knowing the rings multiply both users power together that means knowing merged zamasu is pretty much on par with super saiyen god super saiyen kaioken x20 vegito that means with the x20 multiplier from kaioken and x50 multipler from the super saiyen form all stacked on top of gokus god form which is 8e+13 times base form originally that makes it 8e+16 with those stacked on top know since the rings multiply the powers together and knowing goku and vegeta are close to the same power that means 8e+16 times 8e+16 = 6.4e+33 so merged zamasu is at max 6.4e+33 times gokus base form or bassicly 6,400,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times stronger then gokus base form and that means ultimately merged zamasu is 40,404,040,000,000 times stronger then jiren at least and thats being generous the only time it would be off is if the authors made ultra instinct more OP, or bassicly plot induced crap happens but thats the only thing that can change this, cause right know im just using pure logic and scienctific reasoning so you can choose to believe it or not but this is how i will back up my claim (which is better then nothing imo). Who is stronger - the infinite Zamasu that merged with the timeline or Jiren ? #21. Fusion Zamasu ( , Gattai Zamasu) is a fusion born of the union between Goku Black (Present Zamasu in Goku's body) and Future Zamasu through the Potara earrings. The Tournament of Power reveals that Jiren has his own unique relationships with Gods of Destruction and he could likely become Universe 11's representative if he were so inclined. Anyone below Super Shenron shouldn't be able to do a thing to him and the angels are most definitely below him. Anime Zamasu gets railed until he becomes Infinite and then its just kind of incompleteable for Jiren. In the manga, the saiyans are weaker, and the GoD's Jiren compares to are even stronger. It's not about the battles. it's impossible to do that with 3-A energy because the gap in power required to do so is infinite according to the standards, But really, none of this is proving that Zamasu's ki experienced an infinite growth in size. A Fight Without End: Who Can Topple Jiren? You are using an out of date browser. Dragon Ball Super's manga wisely puts Vegeta on his own path that reflects his own strengths rather than merely imitating Goku's accomplishments. Privacy Policy. @markx: it toke Zeno to get rid off frost frost so yout argument has no point xd. No longer confined by his divine vessel, he may be trying to become part of the very fabric of the cosmos. Reasonably, he can just beat him up then vape him completely. Its been thrilling to see Goku and Earths heroes take on stronger threats that leave the comfort of the planet and introduce a whole multiverse of adversaries. With that being said, Infinite Zamasu's regeneration ability surpasses even Majin Buu's, as even the slightest trace of Infinite Zamasu can reform into clones that are all equal in power, something Buu is incapable of doing. Did you check the thread where it was first accepted? Manga Zamasu can just keep pricking his finger and bringing out more and more, and anime Zamasu is the literal universe at this point spreading throughout time Only complete annihilation from Zeno or some high angel is enough Fused Saiky no Kami Nov 6, 2021 #8 The energy of the universe could be infinite, but he is not using the energy of the universe. Merged Zamasu. 1) Vs. Infinite Zamasu In Dragon Ball Super's "Future" Trunks Saga, Goku and friends find themselves fighting two different versions of the Kai in training, Zamasu. In fact, Infinite Zamasu does not show any awareness of Future Zeno whatsoever until the instant he is about to be erased from existence by him. He killed all the kaioshin which resulted in the death of the GoD and the shutdown of every angel. So, what you are saying is Zamasu's form and power level literally cannot be on different tiers? The main purpose of this forum is to discuss how to properly index the statistics of characters from a wide variety of different fictional franchises. Vegito is an incalculably powerful being, and Jiren wouldn't stand a chance, especially with tricks like Instant Transmission and Forced Spirit Fission also in the mix. In this form, Infinite Zamasu's regeneration is so great, he was able to survive being blasted to smithereens and even have said pieces regenerate to form clones of Fused Zamasu. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. But thanks to the dragon's power, his being remains. In the anime, this being is the surviving will of Fused Zamasu left over from his destruction because of Future Zamasu's immortality. May 26, 2018. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Goku, Vegeta and Trunks could not go full power and their only hope was Zenoh. so no the power scaling is clear, jiren beats anime zamasu no diff. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. That being said, this means that hijacking the universe and becoming a spacetime would only affect his form, whereas his power level would remain exactly the same, Nothing is wrong, only Zamasu's will overflows that allowed him to achieve being a literary 4D being, now Jiren and Goku climb to release energy infinitely greater than Zamas or be linked equal to Bill who sees Zamas as a non-threat. Even if IZ has immeasurable lifting strength, no other character would get it. Jiren doesnt need his full power to slap the Kai out of Zamasu. As the army of Zamases advances toward the Dragon Team, Goku and Vegeta tell Trunks, Mai, Gowasu and Shin to leave. 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